Dyker HeightsChristmas Lights Tours

Dyker Heights Christmas Lights: Bus Tour or Private Car?

Short answer. A coach seat is $45 to $95 per person and always includes an hour on foot. A private car is $399 to $999 for the whole vehicle and the walking becomes optional. The break-even is between four and five people, and the walking question overrides the arithmetic at any party size.

These two are not really competing on price, and treating them as if they were is how people end up with the wrong booking. One sells a seat; the other sells a vehicle. Here is every way they differ, and the point at which the numbers cross.

What does each one actually sell you?

A coach sells a seat on a scheduled departure from a published corner in Midtown, with a guide, and brings you back to a fixed point. A private car sells the vehicle and the driver, collected from your address at a time you agree, going where you ask.

Both take you to the same dozen blocks. Neither gives you a better view of the houses, because the houses are free and the pavement is public.

Where does the money cross over?

The $45 column is the Portuguese and Spanish departure; $63 is the most-reviewed English one. The car is one number whatever the party size.

Party sizeCoach at $45 eachCoach at $63 eachPrivate carCheapest option
1$45$63$399Coach
2$90$126$399Coach
3$135$189$399Coach
4$180$252$399Coach, narrowly
5$225$315$399Coach on price only
6$270$378$399Effectively level

At six people the difference is about twenty dollars. At two it is more than three hundred. That single row is most of the decision for most parties.

Which one includes the walking?

Both include the neighbourhood. Only one makes you walk it. Coaches are not permitted into the display streets, so a coach ticket always means an hour on foot on uneven pavement, on a hill, with nowhere to sit.

A car can drive those streets. That is the difference travellers write about most, and it is the reason a family with a grandparent or a pushchair pays four times the fare without complaining.

What is the group like on each?

Coach caps run from 40 to 150 travellers depending on the operator, and on a busy night several groups share the same pavement. Guides carry lit-up markers so people can find them, which tells you what the crowd is like.

A private car is five or six people, all of them yours. Nobody is counted back on, and nothing waits for a straggler. The bus tours page lists every coach cap.

Where does each one collect you?

Coaches meet at street corners between 41st and 51st Streets in Midtown, at a fixed time, and ask you to arrive fifteen minutes early. Missing one counts as a late cancellation.

All three private vehicles collect from an address. One will come to anywhere in the five boroughs, one to any Manhattan hotel with a supplement outside it, and one to any hotel in the city. On a December evening that is worth more than it sounds.

One private listing excludes the guide. Two of the three include a licensed guide or host who walks the neighbourhood with you. The third states plainly that a tour guide or escort is excluded: you get a professional chauffeur. The private tours page sets the three side by side.

What is included, and what never is?

Every coach: return travel, a guide, the hour on the blocks. Never gratuities, food, drink or hotel pickup.
Every private car: the vehicle, the driver and door-to-door collection. Never gratuities.
Some private cars: a licensed guide, bottled water, drinks, WiFi, all fees and taxes.
Neither: admission. There is none.

Which is better with children?

It depends on their age more than on the money. Older children do well on a coach and enjoy the commentary. With a toddler, a baby, or three children between two adults, the car wins on almost every measure — no fixed departure, no walk in the cold, and a warm seat available at any moment.

Taking children works through the ages and the departure times.

Which is better for a special occasion?

The car, without much argument. A limousine or SUV through the lit streets with drinks on board is a different kind of evening, and people book it for birthdays, proposals and last nights of a trip. One of the three includes drinks and every fee inside the price.

For ordinary sightseeing it is a lot of money for the same houses, and a Dyker Heights Christmas Lights private tour does the job for a fifth of it.

How far ahead should you book each one?

A week for a coach seat on a weekday, two for a mid-December weekend. Earlier for a car, because there are three vehicles against a five-week season and they are the first thing to go on the busy nights.

Both refund in full up to 24 hours before departure, so booking early is free. The dates page has every published window.

What do the reviews say about each kind?

The coach reviews cluster on three things: the cold, the walking and the guide. Nearly every critical review is about one of those, and nearly every positive one names the guide by first name. Two travellers describe a guide holding a lit-up Santa above the crowd so the group could find him.

The private-car reviews cluster on something else entirely: the driver, the collection and mobility. One traveller booked it for parents who could not walk the hour. Another notes the driver knowing how to work around the traffic. A third, on the most expensive of the three, says plainly that it was excellent and expensive at once.

Are the private cars all the same thing?

No, and the differences are larger than the prices suggest. One includes a licensed New York guide who walks the neighbourhood with your party and adds Brooklyn Heights and DUMBO. One is a chauffeur with the guide explicitly excluded. One lets you pick between a limousine, an SUV or a van and puts every fee, tax, drink and WiFi inside the price.

Read the inclusions before comparing the three on cost. A car with a guide and a car without one are not the same product at a different price.

Which one handles bad weather better?

The car, obviously, and it is worth saying because December is December. Both run in all conditions and the displays stay lit. The difference is that a coach puts you outside for an hour regardless, while a car lets you decide in the moment.

Both refund in full up to 24 hours ahead, so the forecast is a decision you make the day before either way. The dates page covers the season and the weather question together.

Is there a middle option?

Not really, and that is worth knowing before you go looking for one. There is no small-group coach at a premium price, no shared car, and no walking-only ticket. The inventory is seven coaches between $45 and $95 and three vehicles between $399 and $999, with nothing in the gap.

The closest thing to a middle is the smallest coach, capped at forty travellers against fifty, fifty-five and a hundred and fifty elsewhere. On a crowded night that is a real difference for thirty-two dollars, and it is the compromise most parties of three or four end up making.

The decision, in one paragraph

Under four people, book a coach and spend the difference on dinner. Five or six, price the car, because it is within about twenty dollars a head and it is a better evening. And at any party size, if somebody cannot comfortably walk for an hour in the cold, book the car and stop doing arithmetic.

Frequently asked questions

What is the difference between a bus tour and a private tour?

A bus tour is a per-person fare from a published Midtown corner at a fixed time, and it always includes an hour on foot — coaches are not allowed into the display streets, so everyone walks. A private tour is a per-vehicle price, it collects you from your own address, and the car can drive the streets, so nobody has to walk if they would rather not. The full comparison is on the bus tours and private tours pages.

Is hotel pickup included?

Only on the private vehicles. All three of them collect you from an address you choose, one of them anywhere in the five boroughs and one within Manhattan with an extra charge beyond it. Every coach tour meets at a published street corner instead, and two of them list hotel pickup explicitly as excluded.

Can I book for a group?

Yes. Coach group caps run from 40 to 150 travellers depending on the operator, so there is room on most departures for a party booked together. The private vehicles hold five or six people and are priced for the car, which usually works out better for a group of four or more.

How much walking is there?

About an hour on foot, on every coach tour, because buses are not allowed into the display streets. The blocks are gently uphill — the neighbourhood sits on a hill that rises to about 110 feet — and there is nowhere to sit down. If that is a problem, a private car can stay in the streets with you inside it.

Is the display wheelchair accessible?

The streets are public pavements and two listings state that their vehicle and the surfaces are wheelchair accessible. Most of the coaches state the opposite, and the pavements are crowded and uneven on a busy night. A private vehicle is the straightforward answer if walking is difficult.

Do I need to book Dyker Heights Christmas Lights tours in advance?

Yes, and ideally more than a day ahead. The season runs about five weeks, the coaches carry between 40 and 150 people and the busiest nights are the weekends in mid-December, so the popular departures fill. Every tour here refunds in full up to 24 hours before the start, which makes booking early cost you nothing if the plan changes.

Every departure this guide mentions, with fares and hours side by side, is on Dyker Heights Christmas Lights Tours.

One of each, to see the difference